“Did she get it removed?”: Piers Morgan and Candace Owens get right into a heated argument over whether or not Brigitte Macron has male genitalia 

Broadcaster Piers Morgan and conservative podcaster Candace Owens not too long ago clashed over Owens’ conspiracy theories postulating that Brigitte Macron, the spouse of French President Emmanuel Macron, was born male. For the uninitiated, Owens and the Macrons are presently engaged in a authorized battle after the French President and his spouse sued the podcaster for defamation in July 2025 for spreading “outlandish, defamatory, and far-fetched fictions” about Brigitte.

Candace Owens joined Piers Morgan for a dialog on his present Piers Morgan Uncensored, which premiered on YouTube on December 18, 2025. In the episode, Morgan questioned Owens about her conspiracy theories regarding Brigitte Macron and likened her claims to radio present host Alex Jones’ theories concerning the 2012 taking pictures at Sandy Hook Elementary School, which killed 20 youngsters and 6 academics.

For context, Jones was sued for defamation after peddling the conspiracy principle that the mass taking pictures was a hoax staged by disaster actors. In 2022, he was discovered chargeable for defamation and infliction of emotional misery and was ordered to pay $1.4 billion to the victims’ households.

Piers Morgan additional added that Alex Jones was “weaponizing deliberate lies for money.” He additionally urged that Owens was utilizing an analogous tactic in her conspiracy theories towards Brigitte, to which Owens interjected and claimed that Brigitte had male genitalia, saying:

“Brigitte Macron has a p*nis. I really want you to know that, Piers, because it’s important.”

Morgan instantly dismissed Owens’ claims, stating that Brigitte Macron has three youngsters. Owens then claimed that the youngsters may have been adopted, including:

“Did she get it eliminated?… You can have adoptive youngsters. Brigitte Macron was born a dude named Jean-Michel Trogneux. And I would like you to know that. I would like you to know that Brigitte Macron…most likely pees standing up.”

Piers Morgan additionally urged that Owens would lose the court docket case towards the Macrons. In their defamation lawsuit, the Macrons alleged that Candace Owens “disregarded all credible evidence disproving her claim in favor of platforming known conspiracy theorists and proven defamers.”

This will not be the primary time Piers Morgan has urged that Candace Owens was pushing conspiracy theories about Brigitte Macron for cash. He addressed the speculation on his present final week whereas in dialog with Tim Pool, claiming that Owens “completely concocted this whole narrative” solely for “attention, clicks, and money.”

“I had a giant set two together with her [Owens] concerning the Brigitte Macron factor, the place I genuinely felt that she simply utterly concocted this complete narrative that Brigitte Macron was a person after which constructed an entire type of conspiracy principle story round it and was doing it purely for consideration, clicks, and cash. And it ended up with us having a $300,000 guess to charity. My guess being that Bridget Macron, who mothered three youngsters, is a lady,” he stated.

Piers Morgan claimed that Candace Owens was benefiting from her theories about Charlie Kirk’s assassination

Elsewhere in his current dialog with Candace Owens, Piers Morgan claimed that Owens’ a number of conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk’s assassination have been financially worthwhile for her. For the uninitiated, Owens has pushed a number of conspiracy theories within the aftermath of Kirk’s assassination on September 10, together with allegations that the management of his non-profit group, Turning Point USA, “betrayed” him.

Piers Morgan implied that Candace Owens’ theories about Kirk’s demise on her podcast have been drawing “millions and millions of people” and allegedly making her “very wealthy.” Owens then requested Morgan to elucidate the idea for his declare, leading to him citing Alex Jones as a reference and saying that the radio host “made himself extremely rich” by “spewing deliberate lies” concerning the Sandy Hook taking pictures.

Candace Owens denied Morgan’s declare that she was utilizing Kirk’s demise for revenue, including that she didn’t signal with a brand new advertiser, embrace extra advert reads, or signal a e-book deal. Morgan then responded that her movies about Kirk’s homicide have been gaining extra views on YouTube and leading to more cash for her, to which Owens replied that her podcast was “already a top-10 podcast globally” earlier than Kirk’s demise.

“But like, come on. Piers, money on YouTube? Are you kidding me? I was already a top-10 podcast globally before Charlie was assassinated. And if you think that I would want my friend to be assassinated so I could go from being in the top five to being number one, you’re out of your mind, ok? And it’s also, it’s so disrespectful,” Owens stated.

Candace Owens additional alleged that the declare that she was making more cash was “just not true,” persevering with:

“The point is that nobody– everyone who is saying that I’m making more money, cannot say how I’m making more money because it’s just not true, ok? So you’re like, “Oh, she got a bump in viewership talking about Charlie,” as did everyone in the world, because it was a public assassination!”

Elsewhere within the episode, Candace Owens informed Piers Morgan that she will be able to “say confidently” that she knew TPUSA was “engaged in a cover up” of Charlie Kirk’s assassination. However, she additionally admitted that she didn’t have any “concrete evidence” to again her declare.